[Adamrosso]

Ok, recently everyone has been blaiming Bush for the hurricane Katrina. By making this topic, i'm nto saying i'm a fan of bush nor think he's a good president. But you can't blaim Bush for what has happened. It's not like he's Mother Nature or something.

[Hector]

Originally Posted By: Adamrosso Ok, recently everyone has been blaiming Bush for the hurricane Katrina. By making this topic, i'm nto saying i'm a fan of bush nor think he's a good president. But you can't blaim Bush for what has happened. It's not like he's Mother Nature or something.

Exactly. Thank you Adam.

In short, mother nature whooped there asses.

You can't "save a whole city" from a hurricane, period.

Accept it.

[+ Ryan]

Originally Posted By: Adamrosso Ok, recently everyone has been blaiming Bush for the hurricane Katrina. By making this topic, i'm nto saying i'm a fan of bush nor think he's a good president. But you can't blaim Bush for what has happened. It's not like he's Mother Nature or something.

Nobody blamed him for not stopping the Hurricane. In fact, I blame the whole government. None of them did anything useful in the first several days of the aftermath of the Hurricane. Nothing but useless speeches that meant nothing. They don't care. =/

[Hector]

Originally Posted By: Ryan Nobody blamed him for not stopping the Hurricane. In fact, I blame the whole government. None of them did anything useful in the first several days of the aftermath of the Hurricane. Nothing but useless speeches that meant nothing. They don't care. =/

Look at my other topic here.

Neither do I.

[+ Ryan]

That's not what I'm saying. If you don't care, well that's pretty heartless and cold, but fine. If our GOVERNMENT doesn't care about our own citizens, then that's not right.

[Hector]

Originally Posted By: Ryan That's not what I'm saying. If you don't care, well that's pretty heartless and cold, but fine. If our GOVERNMENT doesn't care about our own citizens, then that's not right.

It's not they don't care.

Other things are going on right now. Like a "war" and such.

You just help a city in a few days either. That city is long gone, actually. It was long gone 1 month ago when they were warned.

Read about it my topic.

[+ Ryan]

Originally Posted By: HM-UNDERGROUND It's not they don't care. Other things are going on right now. Like a "war" and such. You just help a city in a few days either. That city is long gone, actually. It was long gone 1 month ago when they were warned. Read about it my topic.

They weren't ever warned a month before. The Hurricane didn't become a Cat 5 until it hit the Gulf. They didn't receive any other advance warning. The city isn't long gone, but it's going to be a steep price to rebuild. And what's going on in Iraq isn't a war, it's a travesty, like I said in your other topic. Bush has screwed up the situation there, he's screwed up the economy (hello 4 dollars a gallon!), and now he will be remembered for not giving an adequate response to Hurricane Katrina.

[Hector]

Originally Posted By: Ryan They weren't ever warned a month before. The Hurricane didn't become a Cat 5 until it hit the Gulf. They didn't receive any other advance warning. The city isn't long gone, but it's going to be a steep price to rebuild. And what's going on in Iraq isn't a war, it's a travesty, like I said in your other topic. Bush has screwed up the situation there, he's screwed up the economy (hello 4 dollars a gallon!), and now he will be remembered for not giving an adequate response to Hurricane Katrina.

Dude, the city was warned if not, more than a month ago.

Read up on the weather reports, they predicted a hurricane a long time ago. My father is into all that and even showed me the reports.

People just ignored them and said "whatever".

Than of course, they all got there asses handed to them by mother nature.

[+ Ryan]

The tropical system itself, was it even there for a month? It hit Florida as a Cat 1, and people thought it was done. Suddenly it hit the Gulf waters and hit Cat 5. Not everybody watches the Weather and they were ill prepared to just leave. I admit, they were irresponsible up to that part. However, the government response should have been better. This is from the "disaster" government, that proclaimed they would "protect" us should anything happen, biologically, etc.. And Katrina fits in. It's their duty.

[Hector]

Originally Posted By: Ryan The tropical system itself, was it even there for a month? It hit Florida as a Cat 1, and people thought it was done. Suddenly it hit the Gulf waters and hit Cat 5. Not everybody watches the Weather and they were ill prepared to just leave. I admit, they were irresponsible up to that part. However, the government response should have been better. This is from the "disaster" government, that proclaimed they would "protect" us should anything happen, biologically, etc.. And Katrina fits in. It's their duty.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

You can't save an ENTIRE city from a hurricane. Your lucky if you can even save HALF.

[+ Ryan]

I understand that. I never said they had to become superheroes and stop the Hurricane. Their response wasn't quick enough, nor was it efficient enough. It took them how long to even get support in there?

[Hector]

Originally Posted By: Ryan I understand that. I never said they had to become superheroes and stop the Hurricane. Their response wasn't quick enough, nor was it efficient enough. It took them how long to even get support in there?

Lol, the reporters bet them to it :yuck:

[Lord-Adriel]

1. If the government knew then they should have been taking people out forcibly before if they're willing to do it now

2. Bush should have been tapping into the oil reserve BEFORE the hurricane hit. If he knew the storm was coming (this seems to be an agreed upon fact) then how could he not see that a fourth of the US's oil production was at risk?! Even after the hurricane hit he was still hesitant to do it

3. Again, if the hurricane was known, then the government needed to have prepared aid beforehand. I don't mean make pancakes for the soon-to-be-homeless and just sit and wait, but items that don't spoil such as bottled water and crackers... these things needed to be amassed beforehand. Not "Oh well we said the hurricane was going to hit so we just did nothing and it's their own faults"

3a. If it's their own faults, so what? Their own fault. We're not supposed to let people die because of a rash, prideful decision. Then again, look at Iraq and how our troops are dying for no reason...I stand corrected...

4. The government funneled money that was supposed to maintain the levvies into the war. The same war mentioned in point 3a (directly above). While I am not saying if they hadn't done this, New Orleans would have been surrounded with 30 foot walls, what I am saying is that the government is complaining about how people in New Orleans aren't cooperating when they do things that seem to convey the fact that the men higher up really don't give a damn. No pun intended.



In essence. Bush's fault? No. Not even the president can get an entire city evacuated in such a short period of time...not even a president with many more brain cells who didn't lie to the US so we would support him to go into Iraq, since apparently they were the ones really responsible for 9-11. Oops, he lied...but there are weapons of mass destruction! Oops...he lied again. Uhh... uhh... Liberals are anti-american!!!


Went on a tangent. That's for another debate. While it isn't one person's fault, the government definitely did not handle this well at all.

[+ Ryan]

Well said, Addy. Debate over. Government was irresponsible and I am counting the days till 08 election. =/

[Yitter]

It isn't Bush, it's just the whole America.

Your arrogancy cost you this loss. If you were to build some good dikes and good water draining, this wouldv'e been prevented.

[/1000th America bash rant]